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At this point I would actually be excited if it were Rudy, sad but true.
Joe has been mentioned from the beginning as a potential guy....not sure why that would be sad.
I would love Rudy, I meant sad in the sense that "sources" were saying the potential guys were Chryst, Petersen, Golden, etc., big time head coaches.
I'm actually fine with this. Someone suggested Alvarez at the helm for a year with Rudolph as OC, then turning over the keys to Rudolph. I like that idea.
Yeah if Rudolph is hired then BA flat out just failed to do his job. We have a very good program and this should be a hot job. There should be no excuses to not being able to bring in a top coach.
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What do you mean "at this point". The search is only a week old and not a credible leak, from a credible source has surfaced. I get the impression alot of you guys think we are striking out. Why? I for one trust Barry, and don't think we are as far down the list as Rudolph. Be patient
What do you consider a credible source in this day and age? There's been leaks from sources all over the place, none of them are credible?
look i joke around about this stuff, but like to think i walk the middle on a bunch of this stuff. Not going to claim the sky is falling nor will I try to homer over all the warts.
For me i think Rudolph would be a failure on the surface. Not becuase it is a declaration that he cannot coach, but more to do with the state of the program. This is not a rebuild or raising the dead type situation. This is a program that is in a good spot and was trending upward. So although we could use a keep it together guy I also think this is an opportunity to bring in some juice to take us to the next level. Regardless of what some may say i still believe we are on the doorstep.
Saying all that i realize a couple of things. 1) not matter who we hire it is impossible to judge success until given time to aquire results. And there is no telling who will become the next CP. they have to start somewhere. 2) As much as i think Madison and recent team success sells itself we will never escape the fact that we do not live in a fertile recruiting ground.
Still say we should be able to get a good coach with experience that is a living room presence
I agree 100% that UW is a very good program and this should be a hot job. What I don't understand is why hasn't it attracted top coaches?
I myself trust Barry also, but I don't care if it is a first time HC I really want son't one who knows X's and O's and can recruit and is intouch with the kids. I think that Bob Diaco would be the best candidate I know that he can recruit and he can coach a defense. I hope that he is being considered.
The more we get into this the more intriguing Diaco is.
I wonder if Evan has something good for us cause he hasn't said a peep since last night on the board.
I also think we should not forget about Charlie Partridge, If we really want to hold this class together. But I really like Diaco and I think he would and maybe is the best option.
We really don't know every coach that is interested so who knows what coach mightml pop up. All I know is if we hire a soon to be good coach then BA failed.
It's been one week since Bert suddenly left the program. Everyone is getting very restless. I know I am…We all LOVE BA but it's human nature to have doubts and the longer this drags out, the more and more we'll all continue the discussion...albeit much of it is simply for catharsis
Our current system is somewhat of a double-edged sword. On the one hand, there's a consistent level of excellence that BA will continue to drive as long as he's running the program but there's the fact that big name coaches probably want more control. Just my guess. I don't know about other programs or how much control the ADs/administrators have...but I doubt the Urban Meyers, Les Miles, and Nick Sabans don't have to answer to anyone.
I think it’s difficult for the Badger fan base to understand why a top level coach wouldn’t want to come to Wisconsin. We shouldn’t have to “settle.” This is the time for which we need to turn a negative into a huge positive in order to forward this program to the next level. Many of us didn’t believe Bert could do that. Last year was our best chance, and Bert didn’t get us there. Personally I don’t think our defense was there last year, but what if a Meyer, Miles, or Saban level coach was our coach? Would that have propelled us to a national championship? I think there’s an argument that we’d have had a much better shot.
Whatever BA decides, I’ll probably be okay with and really don’t think we’ll take a step back. That said, jumping to the next level is another story, and I really hope we take advantage of the opportunity here…
With some of the names initially mentioned now being out, I like the idea of Diaco and possibly trying to get Rudolph as Offensive Coordinator (though may be seen as lateral move, its not as PC is the play-caller and de facto OC at Pitt. The move allows Rudolph to gain experience as a play caller and makes the move to naming him HC easier in 3-4 years when Diaco moves onto the SEC or back to ND).
One thing I'll point out is that there were some fairly obvious names thrown out, but there are probably 20 head coaches at other programs that would be good hires. It was mentioned on another board, but what about Mike Riley, for instance? Not saying he'd be interested or we would be, but he'd probably do a good job and UW is a step up from Oregon State.
What I'm saying is that I'd hope that Barry has a longer list of 'initial candidates' than we do simply because he has enough detailed knowledge to be able to look past the hot young coaches.
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I keep hearing that Wisconsin is not a fertile recruiting ground. I understand that to be the case as compared to Florida, Texas, California, Ohio, etc. However, if it's not a great recruiting base why is Michigan State, O$U, Nebraska and others always here sniffing around?
Wisconsin is miles better in HS football that it was 10 or 20 years ago. We are starting to produce more than a handful of D1 caliber players each year. Sure, we have a long way to go but we're not barren like Iowa or the Dakotas.
Same reason we recruit in Ohio, Michigan, and eh Nebraska. You can't get a whole class from recruiting your home state.
The state of Wisconsin would and could have more D1 if the programs in Milwaukee were better and more of the inner city althlete had a chance. There are a lot of Milwaukee kids that go on to play D1 Basketball so why couldn't there be more football players to come out of there? There are no programs in milwaukee to develop the athletes for football. When was the last time a Milwaukee high school football team won State in Wisconsin? Now when was the last time a Milwaukee Basketball team won State in Wisconsin? There is talent it just needs to be developed with more programs keeping kids occupied that will also cut down on problems. Just my opinion! Thanks
regardless of mke development you are still comparing (in terms of attractiveness) to a job that has cleveland, toledo, cincy, dayton, and akron. Same thing when you look at FL, TX, PA,and CA. That is all i was saying. You cannot sustain or go next level without going more national where other jobs you don't have to.
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