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They covered it up
You can argue that 2 members of Penn State administration dropped the ball on it, and should have done more. They called Jerry Sandusky's employer and told him about the incident, and never went further - though It's a question on what was actually reported to them. They say one thing, McQuery says another. He did admit to a court that he was extremely vague with Joe Paterno however. Yet he still reported what McQuery told him to the Head of Campus Police - an actual police department. Nonetheless, You can argue that Joe Paterno should have followed up, and conclude that his reasoning of having no expertise in that area and not wanting to influence the investigation either for or against Sandusky to be poor reasons. I won't argue that point.
However, there's no actual evidence to conclude a cover up. There is no actual evidence that any sort of football culture at Penn State encouraged anyone to hold back on reporting Sandusky. There is no evidence that Penn State's culture puts football ahead of academics or ethics. Quite the opposite in fact.
If you do have evidence that there was a cover up, and not just opinion, I'd like to see it. If you do have evidence that the football program was in any way, shape, or form a part of that cover up, I'd like to see it.
Jerry Sandusky fooled multiple adoption agencies, multiple school districts, a District Attorney, a police Investigation, a football coach, a University, and a community. We do not put the value of a football program over the well being of a child.
I'm guessing this will fall on deaf ears, but it really is stunning to see how much misinformation is out there, regarding Jerry Sandusky and Penn State.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
"They could go any place they were needed. When Arthur Andersen went under, companies weren't hiring those individuals based out of pity, they were hiring based off of merit. This isn't that complicated. Just because there are innocent victims doesn't mean there shouldn't be punishment. There are innocent victims when any person/company is punished."
The scandal will cost Penn State upwards of around $200M, if not more. We were being investigated for infringing upon the Clear Act, for not properly reporting a crime. Eventually, that will also bring about a large fine. We've lost multiple sponsors. We've lost students. We've lost future students. Some of our current students lost job and internship opportunities. A community that prided itself in being almost a Camelot in the chaos of today's world, has to face the reality that one of their own committed what may have been the worst possible crime in human society. Camelot is dead. A University that prided itself in on its high moral code, must come to grips with the reality that it's legendary coach - someone who was integral in creating the values that we still believe and live today - didn't do enough, when it came to perhaps the most important moment of his life as a member of our community. He went to his grave knowing that he didn't do enough. It has to deal with a pair of long time employees who, perhaps, MORE than dropped the ball, and possibly did something criminal. Maybe even the President.
he shame, the pain, the self-loathing could not have been greater. Penn State and its community d*mn well realizes that in some way, they enabled Jerry Sandusky by missing all the signs - which we so desperately want to find. It was a community that sent their children to play I his basement. It was a community that shrugged off rare rumors of that there was something wrong with Sandusky - it was Jerry Sandusky! There's no way he could be doing something wrong! - and now it's a community that will never forget their part in this.
When the NCAA dropped its hammer on us, it was dropping it on road kill. Before then, we were facing far more deserving punishment than the NCAA could have even hoped for. From the victims, from ourselves, from the Federal Govt, from the courts.
When the NCAA dropped its hammer on us, all it did was take attention from the real issues at hand. They did not have a valid reason for sanctions. There was no evidence of a cover up. There was no evidence that Penn State football was in any way responsible for Sandusky's actions. They did what they did as a power grab. They did it because they needed the PR attention as a seemingly strong organization. They did it to feed the masses that were fooled by an editorial disguised as a report.
What's truly sad? We'll get over these sanctions pretty easily. Our program is strong enough, our tradition strong enough, and our coaching staff is strong enough to keep us competitive through the next two years, and be in a position to be competitive for Big 10 titles when the Bowl Ban lifts. For all of the NCAAs bluster and hammering - their punishment was the least of what happened to us. And it had the unfortunate effect of taking away attention of HOW someone like Jerry Sandusky could have continued to do what he did in such a small community, and turn it towards football - a sport. A meaningless one in light of what that man did.
As for TVJ - well I'm actually one of those who enjoys seeing legacies go back and fulfill those legacies. I love that he committed to Penn State, but I almost wish he went to Wisconsin. Troy Vincent was one of the greats, and it would have been awesome if his son followed in his foot steps.
The NCAA brand is FUBAR on its own. PSU was just another opportunity for it to overstep its bounds. You can not damage that which is already broken.
No need to be a dickhead. There is a reason many have you on ignore on our board. Act classy. Act like you've been there before.
I don't fault him for picking PSU. If that's where he wants to be then he should be there. He seems like a bright kid and I'm sure he has played out all the scenarios about BOB leaving and is fine with it
He gets to play the same brand of football in the same conference by picking them or UW.
As far as the scandal and the mark left on the school, I think anyone thinking a HS senior seriously takes that into consideration is mistaken. I would guess its about 10th on the list, if its on the list at all
Classy and infiormative post. Thanks for sharing.
If God dwells inside us, like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting
Excited to have Troy at PSU, he made a great choice.
Vincent was obviously thoughtful in his approach. He took a lot of visits & was careful NOT to jump the gun. There is no doubt that the sanctions were taken into account. He and the people around him felt good with the decision.
Troy's comments were mostly around the football program's focus on academics and football. It's also obvious that he loves our team, coaching staff, and the overall package.
I know that Wisconsin and the other schools on his list are great academic institutions, but for Troy, he felt that PSU "walked the talk," and was the best overall fit.
In any case, we're very glad to have Troy at PSU....and I wish the Badgers the best.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Posas14 10 months ago
come on you really think that he chose PSU on academics? if there is one school besides NW not to pull that on it us.
He chose based on location and blazing his own trail. That is what went into his fit, aside from the normal things. Good luck to him. I think you got a good one and what seems like a very good kid.
I really thought all the damage had been done from the Packers drafting T-Buck over Vincent back in 1992. But no. Think about it. If Vincent plays his entire career in Green Bay instead of Philly then Troy Jr. would have grown up in Wisconsin, not PA, and the location preference that's attracting him to PSU would have drawn him to UW instead. Will Wisconsinites ever stop paying the price for that draft error?
Is Bob going to go to Arkansas? If he does go to Arkansas then should his current recruits decommit or transfer?
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