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Back to the Championsip this week boys, here's what I posted on a Nebraska Board
Hi guys, excited to go up against Nebraska again. Don't be fooled by the 3rd String QB banter, more of a third string, Curt Phillips isn't too big of a dropoff from Stave who you saw in his first game during our first game. CP beat DOB to get the spot. He's a pretty decent leader and has led the Badgers to force overtime the past two games. Doesnt have a deep throw capability, but can get stuff done. Still very limited to what we should have.
I'll be interested to see what Wisconsin does against Nebraska offensively. We've had some great starts against OSU and PSU, but have gone stagnant in the second half both games. Teams start putting 5 D-lineman and our O-Coordinator doesn't have the stones to throw it on first down. The hope is that we were saving some of our bigger stuff for the BIGCC, but the reality is that we need a new OC who isnt scared to do something besides run up the middle when we have a lead. Our OL has improved significantly since last time and I think we'll run pretty darn well against Nebraska at some points during this game. If you stop our run and can shut down Abby, we're screwed. Worst season of WR I've ever seen as a Wisconsn fan.
Defensively, we had a lot of injuries that forced guys into new starting roles. Shelton Johnson, a safety, will be back in place of Trotte. Brendan Kelly, a starting DE, will be back as well as Pat Muldoon who was coming on.
I was impressed with how we schemed for Braxton Miller and shut him down which I think is the big hope for us this game. Burkhead is the best 2nd best RB in the conference behind Ball imo and he's going to get his, but if we can prevent T-Mart from scampering, I think we have a shot. It's going to be a close game either way not a blowout. With that said, I still think you guys come out on top.
If God dwells inside us, like some people say, I sure hope He likes enchiladas, because that's what He's getting
This game will be based entirely on the oline and Matt Canada. If the oline plays 4 quarters and Canada can call better plays than 3rd and 9 run plays then we'll give Nebraska a run for their money. If we do none of that itll be an embarassing game for UW. This one is won in the trenches.
All the opposite of that played out last time and we still gave them a run for their money at their own pad.
Nebraska fans seem overly confident, they say their defense will be better despite the loss of their DT and are unconvinced Montee can run on them. Heard that before.
True, but we will need to get turnovers then. Fortunately, Nebraska is prone to turning the ball over.
Very few husker fans feel that way. MOST think the game will be a war and are feeling some nerves with the loss of Baker (DT). Thanks
Your home board would say otherwise.
Hi Wisconsin fans. Just chiming in on what I think is the more mainstream position about our fanbase's confidence in stopping your running game: in general, this defense always stops the pro-style running game. Occasionally we get gashed, but only when you're passing the ball well or have a legitimate dual threat QB. The only way to have a consistently successful running game against this defense is to set it up with the pass or the QB run.
Not sure how great of a runner Phillips is, but if he has more speed than I've noticed in the maybe 1-2 total quarters of Wiscy football I've watched since he started, then you'll probably have a lot more success offensively both running and passing. The only QB to have any real measure of success throwing the ball against this defense was Brett Hundley at UCLA at the beginning of the season -- and while he totally gashed us, his completion percentage in that game was still 4-5 points lower than his season completion percentage.
So... I guess the confidence, false or not, just comes from the fact that empirically, Pelini's defenses can do two things:
1) confuse QBs (ask Jake Locker, Colt McCoy, Landry Jones, Kirk Cousins, and the rest of the B1G this year) with some tricky and rarely-seen coverage concepts like match-up zone
2) force the deep ball. Can be a vulnerability, but Pelini will bet on our CBs every time. This becomes more problematic if you've established the run and can run some play action, however. The bottom line is until a QB proves he can consistently throw accurate passes past 15 yards or so, Bo will make him keep trying. (Stave did really well at this last time, at least starting out)
The loss of Steinkuhler will not influence our DB play, but it will influence the line's ability to pressure Phillips and slow down Ball, which does, I think, worry our fanbase some because of the play action game. That and the fact that we're almost certain to spot you at least two turnovers has me convinced that this will be a close game either way. This is not going to be a high scoring affair like the last two meetings.
I guess what I'm saying is... we're confident about this defense because it has shown strong results against pocket passing QBs and pro-style offenses. If Phillips is able to move outside of the pocket and make some throws and runs, I think Nebraska fans will start to worry. At least until the 4th quarter when all the good karma we've earned for putting up with Sooner Magic comes back our way.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by RMagic 17 months ago
+1, that was the post I was looking for.
One other thing - I'm guessing playing the same team twice in one season is a new deal for you guys as a fanbase and as a team. It generally sucks. Our last two Big 12 CCGs didn't end up this way, but in 2010 we had to face Washington in the regular season and in the Holiday Bowl-- one was a lopsided 56-21 win (season), the other an uninspired 7-19 loss after a disappointing CCG loss to Oklahoma. We then had to play Washington again the next season.
I guess the point is that when two teams play twice in a season, strange things can happen. Interestingly enough, Nebraska might end up having to deal with that twice. If Nebraska beats Wisconsin and UCLA beats Stanford next week, the Rose Bowl will be a NU/UCLA rematch... which will happen again next season in Lincoln as well.
Anyone worried/intrigued by the idea of playing the same team twice? Can't imagine it would've happened a lot, if ever, before separate divisions.
Hope we have the same outcome as last year vs M$u.
This post was edited by badger1977 17 months ago
I didnt base my comments off of a handful of posters on our board. My comments are based off another board with probably 3 times the amount of posters compared to huskersillustrated and numerous phone calls made during two different radio shows yesterday in Nebraska. Are there SOME people overly confident? Yes. Are MOST Nebraska fans nervous and expecting a close battle? Absoulutely. I've seen some confident comments on the Wisconsin board. But I would imagine MOST Wisconcisn fans are expecting a close battle as well. Best of luck to both teams saturday.
I hope it doesn't come down to a close game. This year it seem like Neb has found a way to win, where the Badgers haven't. Who knows maybe the odds catch up and UW ends up finding a way to win.
Nebraska will definitely want it more than we will. Their fans will outnumber ours 2 to 1. Our offensive line can't block anybody who isn't on Purdue, Indiana, Illinois or Minnesota. Our OC thinks it's against the rules to pass on anything but 3rd down, and our receivers seem to think dipping their hands in melted butter before every play gives them the best chance to catch the ball.
With that being said, for whatever reason, I could see us pulling the upset. It won't be pretty, and we would need a lot of luck and mistakes by Nebraska to do it, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities by any stretch of the imagination. Just think, it would be a lot like last year against MSU... Just destroying every Husker fan's dream and having them forever thinking about what could have been...Supposed to "their year", just like it was MSU's last year and blah blah blah. Not too mention pissing off the Rose Bowl committee, ESPN, and the rest of the country... and I would absolutely love it. And the funny thing is, it might be our best chance to win the Rose Bowl vs. the last 2 years.
Sorry I'm not sorry.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Fair enough, but forgive me for not calling into radio stations. Thanks for your input, we do sincerely appreciate it and I thoroughly enjoy interacting with Nebraska fans who seem to be one of the more intelligent fanbases.
No Rex Berghead.
Burkhead will probably start....I'm one of the Husker fans who think Ball and company have a shot to run on us....I'm also more nervous than some, i hate playing the same team twice in one year
Goal in life is to make the Huskers Illustrated Hall Of Fame
Thanks and outside of some idiots who threw stuff at my girlfriend and i last year in Madison i like Wisconsin fans
If it matters any, most of us aren't fans of the people who threw stuff at your girlfriend either.
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